The second hour of Shadi and Damir's wide-ranging conversation on all things Islam and liberalism with Mustafa Akyol, author of Reopening Muslim Minds. They wade deeper into various controversies, including whether Islam will follow a similar trajectory as Christianity, apostasy laws, the case of Turkey, whether democracy is a means or an end, and what all of this means for American foreign policy.
In case you missed it, Part 1 of the conversation with Mustafa is available here.
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