Decline Helps To Propel Us Forward
Walter Russell Mead joins us to discuss why America supports Israel—and what that tells us about ourselves.
We welcomed a truly important thinker onto the podcast this week. Walter Russell Mead joined us to discuss his latest book The Arc of a Covenant: The United States, Israel, and the Fate of the Jewish People.
Many critics of American foreign policy have long pointed to our long-standing relationship with Israel as proof of the power of the "Israel Lobby." Mead's latest book shows that reality is far more complicated: the struggles of Zionism in the 19th and 20th centuries have deep resonances with America's self-conception as a nation blessed by Providence. We see a little bit of ourselves in Israel, and act accordingly.
We then moved on to broader questions. How has the American conception of the "arc of history," and our place in it, changed over time? Have Americans today really lost faith in the American project to more than previous generations?
In Part 2 of our conversation (available here for paying subscribers), we discussed the future of American engagement with the wider world. How much do we need to pursue human rights abroad? And does a foreign policy based on human rights make us stronger (Damir, of course, is skeptical)?
Mead offers an answer, drawn from his own belief in "Christian realism." In the closing moments of the episode, we talk about the Biden administration's failures and successes in foreign affairs, as well as the reasons America's best and the brightest made a mess of things after the end of the Cold War. And finally, how does divine providence figure into our future struggles with a rising China?
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Shadi Hamid
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