In Part 2 of our conversation, available here for subscribers, we ask Glenn whether the U.S. should continue arming the Ukrainian resistance, and what an endgame would even look like. Shadi argues that, for all its faults, American hegemony is better than any of the available alternatives. But perhaps that's not an option. As Damir says, maybe a multipolar world is inevitable and categories like "better" are not really useful. If so, how should we think about such a world and our role in it?