Is it Wicked Not to Care?
Is it Wicked Not to Care?
Shadi and Damir go head-to-head on Ukraine, the legacy of John McCain, and how to do foreign policy right.
Published on: Jan 29, 2022  

After two years of podcasting together, Shadi and Damir think they've gained some clarity on where their worldviews diverge: it's especially pronounced on the question of how to do foreign policy. As the conversation unspools, and with the ghost of John McCain hovering over the show, the guys draw out where they come out on various milestones—from the Iraq war, to NATO Expansion, to Obama's policy of "Don't do stupid shit."

Part 2 of our conversation is available here. Shadi and Damir try to unpack why U.S. foreign policy has been so lousy since the end of the Cold War. They both think "half-measures" are a culprit, but for different reasons. How is it that the best and brightest have been so incompetent?  

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