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Tom Barson's avatar

I remember the point in the second semester of my intro systematic theology class at Union Seminary when Christopher Morse -- then a graduate student who had taken over for the retiring Paul Lehmann, later Bonhoeffer Professor of Theology -- challenged those of us who were squeamish about some point of John Calvin's about heaven and hell with a question, "Is there a moral structure to the universe -- or not?"

It occurred to me then, though I did not yet have the courage of my convictions and so wasn't able to say it, that the answer is no. There is nothing "necessary" about hell unless, and this is a significant qualification -- unless it's a necessity that arises out of human nature. Hell is something we make, or else a fever-dream of being human. I don't actually like this conclusion. I'm not, by temperament, a constructionist. I prefer to grapple with the given world, but I can't deny this human-made hell is part of it. Let's talk about THAT and those logical chains that justify the horrific.

Where this leads to is a rejection of Shadi's assertion that discussion of the afterlife is simply "unfashionable." It's unfashionable for a reason, namely, that, whatever our fear or longing, we can't say anything about the afterlife beyond what our ancestors made up about it.

Even without the beyond-this life hell we dream of, the Archangel Michael, looking down on the human world, had reason enough for lamentation.

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David DeSteno's avatar

The idea of hell (or at least of an all knowing, omniscient, moralistic god who can punish you) has been theorized to underlie morality. Research on these “big gods” has suggested that they emerge when societies are urbanizing and becoming complex (exactly when cheating in an anonymous way becomes easier). So I agree that the idea of hell/punishment can restrain “evil.” But, there’s another route that religions often use that doesn’t require a punitive stance. Spiritual practices often alter our emotions, with ones like gratitude, empathy, and compassion emerging from those practices. In my lab, we find that those emotions, however evoked, increase moral behavior. They don’t require a corrective response due to worry about what God(s) want; they simply alter moral calculus toward cooperation and prosociality. So, for some, this route can foster virtue from the bottom up, as a practice, rather than from the top down, as a fear or correction. I don’t think this is the reason why hell is falling out of fashion. But it is one way spiritual traditions can foster virtue without the idea of eternal damnation.

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