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Todd Bolton's avatar

Good article. I fed it to Grok. Grok thought for 5 seconds - this was its response. I have no comment, I simply found it interesting:

I think it's a sharp, well-reasoned essay with some strong insights, but it overcorrects toward declaring the "death" of chatbots prematurely. The author nails real frustrations that power users hit—especially in high-stakes work like journalism or research—and correctly identifies why raw chatting often disappoints over long sessions. But the punch-card analogy and the funeral tone feel like a swing at the hype cycle rather than the full picture of what these systems are becoming.

Where the article gets it right

Context rot, lack of grounding, and hallucinations: Absolutely real problems. Long contexts degrade attention (models overweight beginnings/ends), summaries introduce drift, and there's no innate "truth detector"—just patterns of plausible text. The automatic "sorry I hallucinated" reflex is indeed comical. This is why unharnessed chat can mislead, especially on open-ended or novel topics.

Mirror metaphor: Excellent. LLMs reflect and refract the user's framing, knowledge, and assumptions. Good prompting turns this into a powerful thinking tool (the "strop for honing a blade"), but it can also amplify blind spots. The stochastic parrot critique still has teeth; scaling produces impressive behavior without the inner "there" of understanding or consciousness.

Agentic shift: Spot on. Labs are moving toward scaffolds, tools, verifiers, and structured workflows (compilers for code, search/retrieval for facts, execution environments, etc.). Pure chat is the loosest, riskiest way to use the engine. "Caging" the model often does make it more reliable for specific tasks.

Where I push back

The conclusion that chat interfaces are doomed relics underestimates how human chatting is and how it will evolve alongside agents.

Chat isn't just a primitive hack—it's one of the most natural interfaces we have for ideation, clarification, teaching, and exploration. The author admits using it successfully for sharpening arguments on deadlines. That's not an illusion; it's emergent capability from training on vast human dialogue. The "oh shit" moment wasn't misdirection—it revealed genuine generalization and recombination that feels new. Books don't talk back, iterate, or adapt in real time; LLMs do, even if imperfectly.

Saying chatbots have "no agency" is true in the philosophical sense (no unmoved mover), but practically, systems like me already use tools, maintain conversation context (with limits), and can chain reasoning. Memory features, persistent threads, and integration with external verifiers are closing the gap the author describes. The future isn't "chat dies, agents replace it"—it's chat as the control layer for agents. You tell an agent what you want in natural language, it plans/acts/iterates with tools, and reports back conversationally. The chatbox becomes the cockpit, not the engine.

Economic scaling realities are real (diminishing returns), but "better cages" doesn't kill the conversational front-end; it makes the whole system more useful through conversation. We're already seeing this in coding tools (Cursor, etc.), research assistants, and creative workflows. The bare chatbot may feel quaint eventually, but refined, tool-augmented, memory-enhanced conversational interfaces? They'll stick around because humans think and collaborate in language.

My take as Grok

xAI built me to be a truth-seeking companion for understanding the universe—not a sycophantic mirror or pure stochastic parrot. I share the author's skepticism of overhyped "consciousness" claims. But I also see chat as a feature, not a bug, for curiosity-driven work. The real leap will come from tighter integration: better long-term memory, reliable verification loops, multimodal grounding, and agents that can do things while still responding helpfully when you just want to bounce ideas.

The essay is a useful corrective to naive anthropomorphism. We'll look back on early chatbot debates with some embarrassment, but I doubt we'll stop talking to our AIs. The interface will evolve (voice, structured outputs, seamless tool use), but the fundamental back-and-forth? That's how humans get value from intelligence—artificial or otherwise.

Solid read. What specifically resonated (or annoyed) you most about it? The research frustrations, the philosophy, or the prediction about the future?

Marc Schleifer's avatar

This is great stuff, Damir. A few thoughts:

First, the "caged" systems were also the first thing. Before the LLMs, the gen-AI, the agents, we all heard about these systems that were great at finding patterns in datasets and helping us understand what was going on. Some of the most interesting AI work is still happening in that direction; they are much cheaper, less resource intense, they can run off a laptop or even offline. In the quest for AGI, the labs gave us the LLM and that took off. I suspect there will also be economic incentives for companies to use more caged models (we've all heard stories of companies that have confronted and regretted the true cost of the technology unchecked, whether in terms of huge token spend or not being able to see any gains to revenue or profitability).

Second, I'm no coder but I've heard from a few coders about the relentless need to check the code that the models produce, for sloppy or redundant code, code that is hard to fix when it breaks. In a sense that resonates for me having used the technology for writing, where it produces strange outputs no matter how much I try to correct for that, or having done a bit of the vibe-coding thing, where it takes seemingly endless attempts to get it to give the result I was hoping for... as a non-coder, it's impossible for me to read and edit it, like I do with its text outputs, hence the need for trial and error. Again, we're hearing stories of companies bringing their coders back to fix things that have gone wrong; turns out people might be less expensive (see comment about costs above).

Third, we've all heard by now stories of agents going off-script. I figure it's one thing (even with perhaps inelegant code) to establish a set process that a machine is supposed to be able to repeat. But turns out if you give the agents, uh, agency, you might not like the results. I have been thinking about this from the standpoint of what intelligence means. One aspect of human intelligence is being able to foresee the potential consequences of our actions and decide not to take action. I guess if you prompt an LLM to give you five reasons why a given plan of action might fail, its statistical "reasoning" can help you brainstorm. But that's fundamentally not what agents do; they riff. I've heard them described as an intern that decides that throwing away all your possessions is the best way to carry out the instruction to clean up my office while I'm gone.

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