Feb 13, 2022 • 39M


How should we think about movements that seek to upend society?


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Damir Marusic
Shadi Hamid
Agreement is nice. Disagreement is better.
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From Leon Trotsky to Sayyid Qutb to the Founding Fathers, Shadi and Damir discuss revolution in all its forms. The guys argue about the importance of ideas, the role of violence, and how order is legitimized. Can democracy keep the peace?

Shadi and Damir then turn their attention to the revolutionary impulses on both the conservative right and the woke l…

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