Mar 4, 2022 • 51M

Europe's Holy War

Berlin-based journalist Elisabeth Zerofsky joins us to debate what war in Ukraine means for Europe's future.

 
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Damir Marusic
Shadi Hamid
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This week, Berlin-based journalist and New York Times Magazine contributing writer Elisabeth Zerofsky joins us to discuss how Russia's invasion of Ukraine has changed Europe. What explains the righteous fury of previously pacific Germans? Shadi asks Elisabeth and Damir what a "red line" in Ukraine could possibly be—or if it even exists. For example, how…

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