This might seem a minor point, but I wonder if it might actually be significant... at 47:20 PK says "moral disgust at Russia is related to support for Ukraine" -- surely true, but the disgust is maybe less with how Russia has been fighting in Ukraine, than with the decision to invade in the first place. For Russia's critics there was no …
This might seem a minor point, but I wonder if it might actually be significant... at 47:20 PK says "moral disgust at Russia is related to support for Ukraine" -- surely true, but the disgust is maybe less with how Russia has been fighting in Ukraine, than with the decision to invade in the first place. For Russia's critics there was no "moral" way for Russia to invade Ukraine, so any "war crimes" Russia may have committed are sort of beside the point.
With Israel on the other hand, there are many people who on the whole feel it's ok that Israel retaliated after October 7, but say it has been done in the wrong way, too many civilian casualties, etc., and therefore they want to kick Israel out of the club of "civilized" countries or whatever.
But: much as SH talks about the subject I haven't heard him give the "right" ratio of civilians to combatants. And the people in these "civilized" countries don't have experience of living next to Hamas. Which may lead one in the DM-ward direction of thinking that being "civilized" is a luxury for countries with friendly neighbors.
This might seem a minor point, but I wonder if it might actually be significant... at 47:20 PK says "moral disgust at Russia is related to support for Ukraine" -- surely true, but the disgust is maybe less with how Russia has been fighting in Ukraine, than with the decision to invade in the first place. For Russia's critics there was no "moral" way for Russia to invade Ukraine, so any "war crimes" Russia may have committed are sort of beside the point.
With Israel on the other hand, there are many people who on the whole feel it's ok that Israel retaliated after October 7, but say it has been done in the wrong way, too many civilian casualties, etc., and therefore they want to kick Israel out of the club of "civilized" countries or whatever.
But: much as SH talks about the subject I haven't heard him give the "right" ratio of civilians to combatants. And the people in these "civilized" countries don't have experience of living next to Hamas. Which may lead one in the DM-ward direction of thinking that being "civilized" is a luxury for countries with friendly neighbors.