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What if, in an alternate world, all of the muslim countries in the region had made peace with Israel while continuing to peacefully support the struggle of Palestinians for a state? Or, what if the Arabs / Palestinians had accepted the 1947 UN plan for Partition Palestine? I understand the plan was deemed pro-Zionist and therefore unfair to the Arabs. In that scenario, would have the Middle East developed differently?

Israel-Palestine conflict is only one of several factors that have made Middle East so volatile, making it an infertile environment for democracy. Other factors include acquisition of sudden wealth of some, but not all, Middle East nations in the form of Petrodollars that was used to spread Wahhabism to various parts of the muslim world, radicalizing them even more. Egypt was probably the pre-eminent Arab nation after the war, but is now eclipsed by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Then there is Shia - Sunni conflict that played out in Iraq and Syria, and then between Iraq and Iran.

US administrations may be guilty of supporting dictators and authoritarian regimes in the middle east, but that was driven by a need for stable and uninterrupted supply of Oil that only dictators were deemed capable of ensuring. That in turn increased unrest among the Arab citizens that in turn forced the leaders to clamp down even more etc.

I think it was Fareed Zakaria who said decades ago that oil has proven to be more of a curse than a benefit. I agree. Without it, the Middle East would probably be a lot more stable, peaceful, and even democratic.

I guess the point I am making is that US policy could have been better in theory, but the challenges in the Middle East are more structural IMHO.

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Let's back up a moment... I remember watching the planes smashing into the World Trade Center and later wondering why these Arabs hated us so much. I had worked in the oil business and knew that ARAMCO - the Arabian-American Oil Company is one of the most prosperous economic enterprises in the world. At that time the U.S. hadn't gotten directly involved in any Mid East wars and just wanted stability so cheap oil could fill our tanks. I didn't know a Sunni from a Shi'ite and really didn't care to have the need to know.

Later, I came to understand more of the tumultuous Middle East history and studied the rise of radical Islam in Egypt and Palestine. Iran under the Shah seemed to be on the path to modernization but we know how that ended up with a merging of two versions of radical Islam. I watched the devastation of Iraq and then Syria and the rise of ISIS and its barbarism. I watched in horror as they eradicated pre-Islamic Syrian history and dynamited the ancient Buddhist cliff carvings.

Fast forward to October 7 with Hamas brutally attacking Israeli civilians and scurrying back beneath a shield of their own civilians daring Israel to respond knowing the casualties of dense urban warfare. Does the U.S. care for Arab/Iranian lives? The real question is do the radical Islamists care for the lives of their own citizens they so carelessly sacrificed?

I live in liberal California, but I witness very little animosity towards our sizable Muslim community. Nationwide, there are more the 70 Muslims serving in the Biden Administration.

"Muslims also won seats in Texas, Illinois, California, Minnesota, Maine, Ohio and Pennsylvania. These newly elected officials come from a variety of ethnic backgrounds, including Somali, Pakistani, Afghan, Indian and Palestinian, but tend to be young and Democratic.

The path to these wins was paved in part by higher-profile Muslim politicians, including Keith Ellison, the first Muslim to serve in Congress, who is now Minnesota attorney general; André Carson, a congressman from Indiana; and Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, the first Muslim women to serve in Congress. But Mohamed Gula, national organizing director at Emgage, a Muslim civic engagement non-profit, said the phenomenon was also fueled by the community’s desire “to create social change, to create a culture shift and the systems that are supposed to represent us”. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/26/us-midterms-muslim-candidates-elected-politics

My research points back to the Arab invasion of Persia (Iran) over a millennium ago in 654 and the forced conversion from Zoroastrianism to Islam. The current split between the Sunnis and Shia is ancient and deep. It is this vicious holy war within Islam that leads to the visions of bloody jihad perpetrated by radical Islamists. No, it is not the West that doesn't value Muslim lives, it is the division deep within Islam itself that causes the carnage. Most of us in the West would like to walk away from this madness and cruelty and probably would if not for Israel being a bastion of Western liberalism in the region. Sadly, I find the West values Muslims more than they do themselves.

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