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The Radical Individualist's avatar

You're getting into the weeds, here.

There is a lot to not like about Kamala. Consider what you've revealed so far. You condemn Trump for his sexual antics, but sweep Kamala's aside. If you condemn one, then condemn the other. Or not.

And speaking of double standards, why is it that when a man and a woman have consensual sex, the man is a misogynist, and the woman is a victim? I understand how people see Trump as a creep concerning his affairs and statements. But he never raped anyone (No, he did not. Forget the BS. No woman was ever forced to have sex with him). Sometimes two people have sex because they want to have sex. Sometimes they do it as a career move, or for other advantage. Whatever Trump has done, Kamala has done it, too.

And Biden is the racist, for Pete's sake, not Trump. That's a big part of the reason blacks have been bailing on Biden and going to Trump. Do you want to claim they are making a mistake? Wouldn't that make you a racist?

Here's something else to consider, that I just put out:

https://individualistsunite.substack.com/p/kamala-harris-will-be-president-before

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Dana Van Ostrand's avatar

I'm not sure if you've read or engaged much of Wisdom of Crowds, but the whole point is to "get into the weeds" and engage beyond your personal feelings of defensiveness because some people implied you might hold a racist bias or two.

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The Radical Individualist's avatar

Excuse me?! "...implied you might hold a racist bias or two." You're damned right I've got a problem with that.

You are showing your bigotry, and it ain't pretty.

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Stefan M Lyon's avatar

I explained it in a comment to your first reply, but I'm also a white man like you, but I seem to have a very different notion of the weight of the epithet "racist" as you do. I don't seem to feel a thousandth the degree of persecution you do from the word.

If you only ever engage with the epithet, you'll always fail to engage with the actual behavior the epithet is trying to imply. If someone calls you a racist, don't try to defuse it by rejecting the term, defuse it by asking them what they mean by "racist".

If someone called me a racist, my response would be: "well, how so?", not "how dare you?!".

I have dignity and self-respect, but I also realize I have flaws and live in the real world where friction between people will always exist.

You and I as Americans know that in our society we hold nobody above reproach - everyone can be called out for bad behavior. "How dare you!?" is a non-response.

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The Radical Individualist's avatar

Huh? And if a somebody calls a black person a n***er, there is no reason for the black person to take it personally, right?

Are you old enough to remember Archie Bunker? He wasn't aware of his own bigotry. He wouldn't have hurt a fly, but he was still bigoted. I see a lot of Archie Bunker in some of these comments. You seem to be saying, "It's OK to be a bigot, as long as you don't mean any harm." No part of me understands that.

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Stefan M Lyon's avatar

Let me get this straight, and please correct me if I'm wrong - you are directly comparing:

1) a racial epithet exclusively used by white people committing physical or non-physical acts of violence/intimidation against black people, the latter of which were literally bred by their masters into eternal bondage, considered subhuman creatures and worked from birth to death, and routinely raped, tortured and murdered by those masters - for HUNDREDS of years.

2) a generic term for any human being (regardless of race) who constructs or perpetuates systems which bring about unequal outcomes on a basis of race, and is largely speaking not associated with any actual violence or negative outcomes in the real world for anyone involved.

Because if you are directly comparing and drawing an equivalent between using #1 and #2, it signals to me there is some fundamental inability to understand proportions on your part, or some unbelievable lack of historical knowledge.

I want to check again, because I'm frankly gobsmacked that anyone could actually seriously make that comparison. It is frankly offensive to even suggest the "n" word and racist are directly comparable.

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Christine Emba's avatar

not just "liking" but verbally seconding this comment. TRI, this is getting a bit out of line.

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