This was such a good podcast as always. I was wondering what does a 'free Palestine' really entail? Given the state of the region democracy wise it strikes me a new Palestinian state would struggle to maintain procedural democracy. This is especially so given the infrastructure has been significantly degraded and with years of oppression…
This was such a good podcast as always. I was wondering what does a 'free Palestine' really entail? Given the state of the region democracy wise it strikes me a new Palestinian state would struggle to maintain procedural democracy. This is especially so given the infrastructure has been significantly degraded and with years of oppression democracy strikes me as a longshot? Would Palestinians merely be swapping an Israeli brutaliser for one of their own?
I agree on the argument against realpolitik. The true realpolitik would likely be supporting democracy in the area given long term the trajectory would work in the US's favour I would guess. Currently the policies just alienate everyone involved leaving America at risk of criticism from both flanks as it were.
I was also thinking if I wanted to steelman Israel you'd make an argument that involved their perpetual security in the long run and increasing the chances of peace by eliminating bad actors such as the heads of Hamas and Hezbollah. You could also make a case that although Arab states are now guaranteeing Israeli security this wasn't the case all that long ago. Indeed, relatively recent surveys by Arab Barometer highlight the lack of support for normalisation of relations. Of course you could do some counterfactuals but I think this would be a set up for steelmanning Israel's position
This was such a good podcast as always. I was wondering what does a 'free Palestine' really entail? Given the state of the region democracy wise it strikes me a new Palestinian state would struggle to maintain procedural democracy. This is especially so given the infrastructure has been significantly degraded and with years of oppression democracy strikes me as a longshot? Would Palestinians merely be swapping an Israeli brutaliser for one of their own?
I agree on the argument against realpolitik. The true realpolitik would likely be supporting democracy in the area given long term the trajectory would work in the US's favour I would guess. Currently the policies just alienate everyone involved leaving America at risk of criticism from both flanks as it were.
I was also thinking if I wanted to steelman Israel you'd make an argument that involved their perpetual security in the long run and increasing the chances of peace by eliminating bad actors such as the heads of Hamas and Hezbollah. You could also make a case that although Arab states are now guaranteeing Israeli security this wasn't the case all that long ago. Indeed, relatively recent surveys by Arab Barometer highlight the lack of support for normalisation of relations. Of course you could do some counterfactuals but I think this would be a set up for steelmanning Israel's position